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Does Anyone Know Where They Talk About This In Catcher In The Rye?

Doesn’t Holden keeping Phoebes innocence toward the end of the book? If so, what chapter?

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  • Sep 7th 201019:09
    by Nat

    Doesn’t Holden talk about keeping Phoebes innocence toward the end of the book? If so, what chapter?

  • Sep 7th 201021:09
    by lduncan0

    He never describes this directly. There are observations and statements made throughout the book that refer to Holden’s desire to protect innocent children from the nasty corruption that society brings them as they grow up and enter it.
    Dealing with Phoebe specifically, Holden changes his mind about running away once he sees her, with his hat on and carrying his suitcase, saying she wants to go with him. He gets a clear vision of her following in his footsteps and wants to put an end to it. He demands that she return home and stay in school to be in the school play–a rather silly Christmas pageant in which she’ll play Benedict Arnold. Not exactly much of a role to aspire to, but that’s what kids do in school, and that ‘s what Holden wants most for Phoebe–that she remain a child while she still can.
    Earlier, he desperately tries to erase grafitti at Phoebe’s school and in the museum as a way of protecting her and the other children.
    All of these examples that focus on Phoebe start after about Ch. 20, but most of the book is filled with other details such as these.
    Chapter 25 is important as Holden realizes he can’t protect Phoebe from society. She gets on the carousel because she’s still a kid, but Holden says he’s too big, because he has crossed that threshold into adulthood. He stays aside and watches from afar, realizing he can’t do much to protect children. He has to let them fall if they’re going to fall, and shouldn’t try to do anything about it. This runs counter to his thoughts about being the “catcher in the rye.” This is the epiphany that provides a happy ending and closure to the novel, although most readers miss it.

  • Sep 7th 201022:09
    by Dale

    It’s at the very end when he wants to protect her from profane graffiti. He wants to be her “catcher in the rye,” her protector.

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